Time & date
Wednesday June 5 2013 8:00pm Pacific Standard Time, Thursday June 6 2013 8:00am Pakistan time, Thursday June 6 2013 11:00am Malaysian time.
Attendees
Invitees: Anjum-, Kashif-, Raja, Johari-, Nara, Abdullah, Badrul, Hanan-, Fidah, Saqib*, Les*, Renan*, Bebo*
* Confirmed attendance
- Unable to attend
Actual attendees: Raja, Saqib, Bebo, Renan, Les
Action Items from last meeting
- Is there a list of invitees?
- Has the notice been sent out to invitees?
- Is there a response?
- Johari was to put together ideas for an MoU between UM, UTM and UNIMAS.
- Badrul is putting together a funding proposal.
- The traceroute at UNIMAS needs further investigation - Johari
- We look forward to an update on Badrul's work on the anomaly detection.
- Need update on Saqib's Malaysian Internet case study, can this be used as the basis for a paper on "User experience of using the Internet from Malaysian Universities
- Raja press forward with visa etc.
Welcome
Renan from UFRJ in Rio de Janeiro has joined us for 12 weeks starting last week. He is working on extending access to PingER data via Linked Open Data (LOD). See here for documentation .
Workshop
Johari suggested a signing ceremony at the workshop for an MoU between UM, UTM and UNIMAS. Johari will work on putting together ideas for an MoU. Progress?
- The web page for promoting the upcoming PingER Workshop in UM is available from http://pinger.unimas.my/pinger/workshop.php.
- Johari has created a list of invitees and will send to Abdullah and Hanan. Is the list available?
- For attendees it is important to try and get 2 representatives from each of the 20 public Malaysian universities. It would also be good to get a non MYREN University and someone from Malaysia Telecom. Bebo has sent contacts for MIMOS and Manipal. One participant would be from the computer division (more to do with installing and maintaining), the other from Faculty (more for the research side). Johari said there is space for 30. Anjum said we should invite more than 30 since there will be some who will not attend. We could go >30 people for the non technical sessions and restrict for the hands on.
- The call has gone out to invitees. How are the responses coming on? Is there a list of invitees?
- The Logistics and Labs have been agreed on. For the session on navigating the PingER site for data, it would be good to have 2 screens, 1 for a powerpoint presentation, the other for the worked exercises. Is this OK?
- Johari has put together an agenda for the 2nd day, any feedback?
Les has tickets to and from Malaysia.
We are unable to get funding to invite someone from NUST. I believe this is the proposal.
- Anjum record or prepare slides for his session of PingER deployment in Pakistan and lessons learned. This is presented as a video/slides + Skype attendance by Anjum for questions.
- In addition three talks:
- PingER in Malaysia initiative - Johari - 30 mins
- Case study of Internet connectivity within Malaysia together with anomalies - Badrul plans and progress 30 minutes
- Routing and performance within Malaysia - Saqib 30 mins
We need to share draft copies of presentations before the meeting. When are these due by?
Visits to UM and UTM
- Is there an agenda for the visit to UM and potential presentations that will need preparing?
- Is there an agenda for the visit to UTM and potential presentations that will need preparing?
- There are some potential topics at https://confluence.slac.stanford.edu/display/IEPM/PingER+Workshop+at+UM+June+2013
Funding/Proposals
Johari reported that the FRGS proposal had been accepted. It is for 75K MRs (~$35K). It is for 5 people. It is not available until June and so cannot be used for the Workshop.
Badrul is putting together a proposal fro an outreach program. It is similar to Johari's FRGS proposal. It will be used to expand the monitoring hosts. There is no progress (4/24/2013), Badrul is looking for another collaborator besides UNIMAS.
Johari said a second round has been opened up for FRGS funding. Johari will share thsi with others at the meeting in KL in May. If a proposal is put together from multi-universities (e.g. 2 from each of UM, UTM and UNIMAS) then the acceptance probability is high. Also includes SLAC and NUST.
The Next step in funding is to go for bigger research funding, such as LRGS or eScience. Such proposals must lead to publications in high quality journals. They will need an infrastructure such as the one we are building. We can use the upcoming workshop (1 specific session) to brainstorm and come up with such proposal. We need to do some groundwork before that as well. Johari will take the lead in putting together 1/2 page descriptions of the potential research projects.
- Need to identify a few key areas of research related to PingER Malaysia Initiative and this can be shared/publicized through the website. These might include using the infrastructure and data for: anomaly detection; correlation of performance across multiple routes; and for GeoLocation. Future projects as Les listed in Confluence here https://confluence.slac.stanford.edu/display/IEPM/Future+Projects can also be a good start and also Bebo's suggestion.
- Need to synchronize and share research proposals so as not to duplicate research works. how to share? Maybe not through the website, or maybe can create a member only section of the website to share sensitive data such as research proposal?
Anjum mentioned a paper on Evaluation of IP Geolocation Algorithms on PingER and PlanetLab Infrastructures, by Fida Gilani et. al. submitted to IEEE INFOCOM 2011. This could be updated with new data and maybe submitted to a different venue. Anjum forwarded a copy of the paper to Johari, Abdullah and Hanan with copies to the team. The idea is to see whether there is interest at UTM, UM or UNIMAS.
Anjum suggested Saqib, Badrul and Johari put together a paper on user experiences with using the Internet in Malaysia as seen from Malaysian universities. In particular round trip time, losses, jitter, reliability, routing/peering, in particular anomalies, and the impact on VoIP, throughput etc. It would be good to engage someone from MYREN.
UNIMAS
Johari has another Raspberry Pie. He has installed the PingER monitoring. He is seeing the same traceroute behavior.
UTM
Saqib is starting to look at Pingtable.pl anomalies as a start in a case study for Malaysia and S.E Asia. In particular hosts which are unreliable, hosts with large (>1) values of Directivity, host with large RTTs, hosts with large unreachability or losses etc. Saqib has been busy with thesis so no progress, will be available June 12th on. Les had some questions on the locations of some sites that have impossible values of Directivity. One has been Disabled, any word on Allianze? What about QIUP? Saqib will investigate. Saqib will put together a 30 min presentation for the workshop on the plans and progress of Malaysian monitoring.
UM
Badrul has been looking at anomalies in ping measurements. Les sent some pointers to previous work on anomaly detection in time series. There should be a presentation at the workshop on the plans and progress. Progress?
NUST
Raja has sent mail to the US embassy enquiring about the visa. He is still waiting. he will contact Anjum to see if Arshad can move things forward. He will need a new DS-2019 by the time the visa is issued.
TULIP - Raja
While running the Mathematica code for all possible test cases Raja found a few logical errors which resulted in the wrong intersection region. He has fixed these issues and also optimized the code (Mathematica code is now about twice as fast as the MATLAB code).
He knows how to call Mathematica code from JAVA so now the next step would be to call this JAVA code from PERL or to try to directly call the MathKernel (Mathematica kernel) from perl, the latter case would probably be a better option and he will try to do that first.
PingER at SLAC
The output from tapping? in pingtable.pl now includes the distance between the two hosts.
Les updated the projects list. Johari incorporated in the workshop 2nd day agenda.
We had a meeting with Renan, Bebo and Les to plan out how to provide Linked Open Data for PingER data. Renan has been looking at the ontology and come up with an existing definition from ETSI that could be extended to match PingER's needs. Next steps are to define the schema. The web site documenting will be created at: https://confluence.slac.stanford.edu/display/IEPM/Project+Plan.the project
Potential projects
Future meeting - Les
Next meeting Wednesday 19th June 2013 8:00pm Pacific Daylight Time, Thursday 20th June 2013 8:00am Pakistan time, Thursday 20th June 2013 11:00 am Malaysian time.