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[12:00:19\] David Smith Good afternoon. \
[12:00:23\] David Smith yes \
[12:00:37\] Eric Grove [https://confluence.slac.stanford.edu/display/SCIGRPS/Agendae+for+Galactic+Sources+Meetings+starting+April+2008] \
[12:00:43\] Eric Grove we'll start in a minute \
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[12:02:08\] Eric Grove [https://confluence.slac.stanford.edu/display/SCIGRPS/Agendae+for+Galactic+Sources+Meetings+starting+April+2008] \
[12:03:19\] Eric Grove ok, not Science Express \
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[12:04:00\] Massimiliano Razzano Last minute update : Geminga should be on ApJ 719 (august 20) \
[12:04:06\] Massimiliano Razzano my mic not working...sorry \
[12:04:15\] Jean Ballet W49B about to be resubmitted \
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[12:06:49\] David Smith Nice list. Update it from time to time and re-link it to the agenda. Useful. \
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[12:07:19\] Eric Grove yep, David, that's the idea \
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[12:07:57\] Terri Brandt should these papers just be on LAT data? or also on sources seen with LAT? \
[12:08:08\] Eric Grove anything that's relevant to us \
[12:08:30\] Terri Brandt sounds good\! \
[12:09:21\] Pablo Saz Parkinson yes \
[12:09:22\] David Thompson yes \
[12:09:23\] Eric Grove yes \
[12:09:23\] David Smith yes \
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[12:14:53\] Eric Grove if you're speaking, Patrizia, I can't hear you \
[12:14:57\] Eric Grove yes \
[12:14:57\] Andrew Chen better \
[12:14:58\] David Smith yes \
[12:15:21\] David Smith wow\! \
[12:15:35\] David Thompson Congratulations to Nanni\! \
[12:15:38\] David Smith For the Green Party? \
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[12:16:18\] Eric Grove you're a bit fain,t Andrew \
[12:17:47\] Eric Grove   \Grove  
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[12:18:39\] Eric Grove yes \
[12:18:40\] David Smith yes \
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[12:21:29\] Eric Grove yes \
[12:21:29\] David Smith yes \
[12:21:30\] Adam Hill yes \
[12:21:43\] Eric Grove [https://confluence.slac.stanford.edu/download/attachments/12222500/etacar_htakahashi_100727.pdf?version=1&modificationDate=1280245133198] \
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[12:32:57\] Andrew Chen nominally E>100 MeV, photons run out at high energy \
[12:33:09\] Andrew Chen I would say that there's a lot of contamination from photons 100 MeV \
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[12:34:28\] Seth Digel What does contamination from photons 100 MeV mean? \
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[12:36:19\] Pablo Saz Parkinson I think the question was for Andrew \
[12:36:32\] Andrew Chen dE/E ~ 1 \
[12:36:47\] Andrew Chen for steep spectra, think analogue of Eddington bias \
[12:37:00\] Seth Digel Ah, ok \
[12:37:39\] Seth Digel The color bar in that figure goes from 0 to 0.6 counts cm-2 s-1 pixel-1 \
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[12:40:22\] David Smith Jurgen is apparently in Tuirkey \
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[12:42:03\] Seth Digel Pub Board has approved resubmitting the paper on July 24, not sure if it has gone back in yet \
[12:42:07\] Eric Grove [https://confluence.slac.stanford.edu/display/SCIGRPS/UnID+Fermi+Objects+Suzaku+paper] \
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[12:47:28\] David Smith The draft of the "Two Nancay" (PSRs J2017+0603 and J2302+4442... \
[12:48:02\] Michael Wolff Coming soon... \
[12:49:50\] David Smith Personally i don't really see that it matters... once they're in the hands of referees, all synchronisation gets lost. \
[12:49:52\] Paul Ray I don't think submission is the important thing. \
[12:50:06\] David Smith We don't post to astro-ph before acceptance anyway. \
[12:50:15\] Paul Ray Go ahead and submit any of them when ready. \
[12:50:19\] David Smith I vote: submit a.s.a.p. \
[12:50:27\] Paul Ray We'll coordinate on re-submission timescales \
[12:51:01\] David Smith Paul's remark is wise. (as usual) \
[12:51:09\] Paul Ray If you submit the Suzaku paper it will put more pressure on Scott as well.   \ 
[12:51:18\] David Smith verily. \
[12:51:27\] Teddy Cheung thanks \
[12:51:32\] David Smith yes \
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[12:51:46\] Eric Grove [https://confluence.slac.stanford.edu/download/attachments/12222500/J1103-53-100727-GlctEVO.pdf?version=1&modificationDate=1280246396148] \
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[12:52:36\] Paul Ray Scott Ransom just wrote back to me that he is working on it now and expects to have a draft for me today. \
[12:53:29\] Eric Grove thanks Paul. Good news, that. \
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[13:05:47\] Roger Romani So... we are to conclude that the gamma-ray source is the Blazar and the MSP is just seredipitous? \
[13:06:09\] Eric Grove yes \
[13:06:35\] Damien Parent what is the Edot of this MSP ? \
[13:06:38\] Pablo Saz Parkinson I don't think it had been associated with an AGN when it was selected \
[13:06:59\] Peter den Hartog do you detect a source adding all the data after nov, and if so what spectrum does that give? \
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[13:07:56\] Paul Ray The best test will be to look for pulsed emission once we have a good timing ephemeris from the radio \
[13:08:01\] Peter den Hartog ok, thanks\! \
[13:08:36\] Damien Parent do you have an idea about the distance / Edot ? \
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[13:08:59\] Paul Ray Not off the top of my head.  \ 
[13:09:01\] Ozlem Celik Paul? \
[13:09:04\] Paul Ray It is in the paper draft \
[13:09:07\] Damien Parent ok \
[13:09:13\] Paul Ray we have a DM and the distance is quite large I recall \
[13:09:17\] Paul Ray maybe 5-6 kpc? \
[13:09:36\] Paul Ray I think it would be one of the most distant Fermi MSPs if we detect it \
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[13:09:58\] Paul Ray Oh, so my memory was totally wrong\!  \
[13:10:02\] Paul Ray Not too surprising... \
[13:10:08\] Peter den Hartog cool stuff \
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[12:00:19\] David Smith Good afternoon. \
[12:00:23\] David Smith yes \
[12:00:37\] Eric Grove [https://confluence.slac.stanford.edu/display/SCIGRPS/Agendae+for+Galactic+Sources+Meetings+starting+April+2008] \
[12:00:43\] Eric Grove we'll start in a minute \
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[12:02:08\] Eric Grove [https://confluence.slac.stanford.edu/display/SCIGRPS/Agendae+for+Galactic+Sources+Meetings+starting+April+2008] \
[12:03:19\] Eric Grove ok, not Science Express \
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[12:04:00\] Massimiliano Razzano Last minute update : Geminga should be on ApJ 719 (august 20) \
[12:04:06\] Massimiliano Razzano my mic not working...sorry \
[12:04:15\] Jean Ballet W49B about to be resubmitted \
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[12:06:49\] David Smith Nice list. Update it from time to time and re-link it to the agenda. Useful. \
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[12:07:19\] Eric Grove yep, David, that's the idea \
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[12:07:57\] Terri Brandt should these papers just be on LAT data? or also on sources seen with LAT? \
[12:08:08\] Eric Grove anything that's relevant to us \
[12:08:30\] Terri Brandt sounds good\! \
[12:09:21\] Pablo Saz Parkinson yes \
[12:09:22\] David Thompson yes \
[12:09:23\] Eric Grove yes \
[12:09:23\] David Smith yes \
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[12:14:51\] David Smith silence reigns... \
[12:14:53\] Eric Grove if you're speaking, Patrizia, I can't hear you \
[12:14:57\] Eric Grove yes \
[12:14:57\] Andrew Chen better \
[12:14:58\] David Smith yes \
[12:15:21\] David Smith wow\! \
[12:15:35\] David Thompson Congratulations to Nanni\! \
[12:15:38\] David Smith For the Green Party? \
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[12:16:18\] Eric Grove you're a bit fain,t Andrew \
[12:17:47\] Eric Grove   \Grove  
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[12:18:39\] Eric Grove yes \
[12:18:40\] David Smith yes \
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[12:21:29\] Eric Grove yes \
[12:21:29\] David Smith yes \
[12:21:30\] Adam Hill yes \
[12:21:43\] Eric Grove [https://confluence.slac.stanford.edu/download/attachments/12222500/etacar_htakahashi_100727.pdf?version=1&modificationDate=1280245133198] \
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[12:32:57\] Andrew Chen nominally E>100 MeV, photons run out at high energy \
[12:33:09\] Andrew Chen I would say that there's a lot of contamination from photons 100 MeV \
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[12:34:28\] Seth Digel What does contamination from photons 100 MeV mean? \
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[12:36:19\] Pablo Saz Parkinson I think the question was for Andrew \
[12:36:32\] Andrew Chen dE/E ~ 1 \
[12:36:47\] Andrew Chen for steep spectra, think analogue of Eddington bias \
[12:37:00\] Seth Digel Ah, ok \
[12:37:39\] Seth Digel The color bar in that figure goes from 0 to 0.6 counts cm-2 s-1 pixel-1 \
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[12:40:22\] David Smith Jurgen is apparently in Tuirkey \
[12:41:16\] Rolf Buehler left \
[12:42:03\] Seth Digel Pub Board has approved resubmitting the paper on July 24, not sure if it has gone back in yet \
[12:42:07\] Eric Grove [https://confluence.slac.stanford.edu/display/SCIGRPS/UnID+Fermi+Objects+Suzaku+paper] \
[12:42:47\] Joshua Lande left \
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[12:47:28\] David Smith The draft of the "Two Nancay" (PSRs J2017+0603 and J2302+4442... \
[12:48:02\] Michael Wolff Coming soon... \
[12:49:50\] David Smith Personally i don't really see that it matters... once they're in the hands of referees, all synchronisation gets lost. \
[12:49:52\] Paul Ray I don't think submission is the important thing. \
[12:50:06\] David Smith We don't post to astro-ph before acceptance anyway. \
[12:50:15\] Paul Ray Go ahead and submit any of them when ready. \
[12:50:19\] David Smith I vote: submit a.s.a.p. \
[12:50:27\] Paul Ray We'll coordinate on re-submission timescales \
[12:51:01\] David Smith Paul's remark is wise. (as usual) \
[12:51:09\] Paul Ray If you submit the Suzaku paper it will put more pressure on Scott as well.   \[12 
[12:51:18\] David Smith verily. \
[12:51:27\] Teddy Cheung thanks \
[12:51:32\] David Smith yes \
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[12:51:46\] Eric Grove [https://confluence.slac.stanford.edu/download/attachments/12222500/J1103-53-100727-GlctEVO.pdf?version=1&modificationDate=1280246396148] \
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[12:52:36\] Paul Ray Scott Ransom just wrote back to me that he is working on it now and expects to have a draft for me today. \
[12:53:29\] Eric Grove thanks Paul. Good news, that. \
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[13:05:47\] Roger Romani So... we are to conclude that the gamma-ray source is the Blazar and the MSP is just seredipitous? \
[13:06:09\] Eric Grove yes \
[13:06:35\] Damien Parent what is the Edot of this MSP ? \
[13:06:38\] Pablo Saz Parkinson I don't think it had been associated with an AGN when it was selected \
[13:06:59\] Peter den Hartog do you detect a source adding all the data after nov, and if so what spectrum does that give? \
[13:07:08\] Michael Wolff left \
[13:07:56\] Paul Ray The best test will be to look for pulsed emission once we have a good timing ephemeris from the radio \
[13:08:01\] Peter den Hartog ok, thanks\! \
[13:08:36\] Damien Parent do you have an idea about the distance / Edot ? \
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[13:08:59\] Paul Ray Not off the top of my head.  \ 
[13:09:01\] Ozlem Celik Paul? \
[13:09:04\] Paul Ray It is in the paper draft \
[13:09:07\] Damien Parent ok \
[13:09:13\] Paul Ray we have a DM and the distance is quite large I recall \
[13:09:17\] Paul Ray maybe 5-6 kpc? \
[13:09:36\] Paul Ray I think it would be one of the most distant Fermi MSPs if we detect it \
[13:09:36\] Aous Abdo left \
[13:09:58\] Paul Ray Oh, so my memory was totally wrong\!  \
[13:10:02\] Paul Ray Not too surprising... \
[13:10:08\] Peter den Hartog cool stuff \
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