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Amity (Updated 7/24/2019)

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Amity (Updated 7/24/2019)

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• Bebo contacted Amity to discuss futures, also see the recent history at the bottom under Old Information. Also the MA is very unreliable.
  
• Amity responded 7/31/2019: with:

  • A document containing brief information about work completed  (for both android and data analysis team).

  • We will fix a date around first week of August. We will confirm the same soon 

  • Confluence papers are online and the details are in PingerAmityStatus_pdf

  • The Resume of our current team members is also submitted .

Adib  (Updated 7/22/2019)

•  Adib submitted to "Socio-economic Development Indices and Their Reflection on Internet Performance in ASEAN Countries" to Journal: Engineering Science and Technology, an International Journal. They have requested a re-submission since it is over the limit of 10 pages. Adib re-submitted 7/22/2019.
  
  

Saqib is undergoing his Mid  Term Probationary Review at the University.

• Bebo is also on the panel but was unclear whether he has all the information in the email package sent to him and is uncertain how to respond.
• Les was also uncertain how to respond, since a trip to Pakistan seemed unlikely and there was no mention of a video conference.
  • Les sent an email  "I am unclear how you wish me to notify you of my review of Dr Saqib Ali’s Self-Assessment report and my experience working with him, since attending a meeting in Pakistan is probably not feasible, and a video/voice conference would be difficult to set up due to the time zone differences. I am therefore attaching a letter of recommendation. Please acknowledge that you have received this and whether any further action is required on my part."  
  • He got the response "I hereby acknowledge with thanks receipt of e-mail with attachment."
  • Les asked "Will you be requiring anything else?  Should I submit the REMUNERATION BILL?"
  • He received  the answer "Yes".
  • Les sent email "Attached is the signed form for remuneration bill for mid-term review of Dr. Saqib Ali. Is anything else required? Please acknowledge you have received this.  Thanks"
  • Les received the answer "OK, thanks."
  • Les sent a copy of his letter of recommendation and the initial request from Faisalabad including all the enclosures to Bebo.

Saqib plans to continue work on PingER monitoring for remote areas, in particular in Pakistan. He will use Android PingERs. This may partially tie into the Amity project.

He will also continue his work on Blockchain and plans to attend a Blockchain workshop in Guangzhou.

The 4th  Call for Proposals for The Asi@Connect Project are now open. Saqib will submit a concept note in WP6 with Wajahat and Les as co-applicants

• From Les: WP6 mentions Pakistan, however, the examples are a bit of a stretch for PingER. Possibly deploying PingER MAs based on the Android in remote regions (NWFP, Gilgit, Balochistan, etc.) The difficulty will be getting collaborators in the remote regions, also probably a lot of travel to shake hands, give encouragement, assist, troubleshoot, etc. A challenge will be convincing the collaborators that they are getting something useful out of this. Maybe need to extend PingER to add some easy to use tools.  Another possibility is reviving the PingER MAs in Pakistan. Again, as Wajahat indicates, it is finding collaborators willing to install and manage the MAs. Some development may be needed to make the installation easier and maybe add remote management. Again an issue may be what do the collaborators stand to gain, and the longer-term continuation of the collaboration as people move on.
  

  WP4 talks about PerfSONAR which is monitoring. Providing training on PingER, the reverse traceroute servers might have some traction.  

   

  For both of these if one could install a mesh of MAs in Pakistan, including the reverse traceroute/ping servers (which are trivial to install on a web server, take minimal maintenance, and are much simpler than an MA) then one could address the problem of locating the lat/long of routers  by trilateration of ping response time. Note though getting the lat longs of end hosts is fairly well addressed, routers are usually identified as being located to the owner (e.g. all ESnet's routers on the US and Europe are defined as being located at Berkeley California (the HQ of ESnet)

Thailand, Charnsak (No update 7/23/2019)

UNIMAS

Need to add Umar Kalim to http://pinger.unimas.my/pinger/contact.php. From the 7/5/2018 meeting: Johari can't ssh into the server so he will go to it on Monday.  He will also upload the new UNIMAS PingER website next week.

Email from Johari 4/21/2019:  I am still very much interested in the project but I have to manage my time better. Will try to join the next meeting and probably get someone from my side to monitor the equipment and make use of the data collected

SLAC (Updated 7/242019) 

The FNAL MA has been successfully migrated to a new FNAL host, it went well once the permissions were set correctly.

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• And SLAC would need to extend PingER to accept the location lat/long data.

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• This would also provide valuable experience to the Amity developer in terms of Android app development.

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Adib  (Updated 7/22/2019)

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Saqib is undergoing his Mid  Term Probationary Review at the University.

• Bebo is also on the panel but was unclear whether he has all the information in the email package sent to him and is uncertain how to respond.
• Les was also uncertain how to respond, since a trip to Pakistan seemed unlikely and there was no mention of a video conference.
  • Les sent an email  "I am unclear how you wish me to notify you of my review of Dr Saqib Ali’s Self-Assessment report and my experience working with him, since attending a meeting in Pakistan is probably not feasible, and a video/voice conference would be difficult to set up due to the time zone differences. I am therefore attaching a letter of recommendation. Please acknowledge that you have received this and whether any further action is required on my part."  
  • He got the response "I hereby acknowledge with thanks receipt of e-mail with attachment."
  • Les asked "Will you be requiring anything else?  Should I submit the REMUNERATION BILL?"
  • He received  the answer "Yes".
  • Les sent email "Attached is the signed form for remuneration bill for mid-term review of Dr. Saqib Ali. Is anything else required? Please acknowledge you have received this.  Thanks"
  • Les received the answer "OK, thanks."
  • Les sent a copy of his letter of recommendation and the initial request from Faisalabad including all the enclosures to Bebo.

Saqib plans to continue work on PingER monitoring for remote areas, in particular in Pakistan. He will use Android PingERs. This may partially tie into the Amity project.

He will also continue his work on Blockchain and plans to attend a Blockchain workshop in Guangzhou.

The 4th  Call for Proposals for The Asi@Connect Project are now open. Saqib will submit a concept note in WP6 with Wajahat and Les as co-applicants

• From Les: WP6 mentions Pakistan, however, the examples are a bit of a stretch for PingER. Possibly deploying PingER MAs based on the Android in remote regions (NWFP, Gilgit, Balochistan, etc.) The difficulty will be getting collaborators in the remote regions, also probably a lot of travel to shake hands, give encouragement, assist, troubleshoot, etc. A challenge will be convincing the collaborators that they are getting something useful out of this. Maybe need to extend PingER to add some easy to use tools.  Another possibility is reviving the PingER MAs in Pakistan. Again, as Wajahat indicates, it is finding collaborators willing to install and manage the MAs. Some development may be needed to make the installation easier and maybe add remote management. Again an issue may be what do the collaborators stand to gain, and the longer-term continuation of the collaboration as people move on.
  

  WP4 talks about PerfSONAR which is monitoring. Providing training on PingER, the reverse traceroute servers might have some traction.  

   

  For both of these if one could install a mesh of MAs in Pakistan, including the reverse traceroute/ping servers (which are trivial to install on a web server, take minimal maintenance, and are much simpler than an MA) then one could address the problem of locating the lat/long of routers  by trilateration of ping response time. Note though getting the lat longs of end hosts is fairly well addressed, routers are usually identified as being located to the owner (e.g. all ESnet's routers on the US and Europe are defined as being located at Berkeley California (the HQ of ESnet)

Thailand, Charnsak (No update 7/23/2019)

UNIMAS

Need to add Umar Kalim to http://pinger.unimas.my/pinger/contact.php. From the 7/5/2018 meeting: Johari can't ssh into the server so he will go to it on Monday.  He will also upload the new UNIMAS PingER website next week.

Email from Johari 4/21/2019:  I am still very much interested in the project but I have to manage my time better. Will try to join the next meeting and probably get someone from my side to monitor the equipment and make use of the data collected

SLAC (Updated 7/242019) 

Les believes most of the problems caused by the blocking of www-wanmon have been discovered and fixed. www-wanmon has been shut-down.

Les has been working with FNAL to migrate the MA to a new FNAL host, hopefully pretty seamlessly. After the cutover last Friday, there appears to be a problem accessing the data from SLAC due to some permissions need adding at FNAL.

Les has read Umar's documents on PingER Metrics Motion Charts and updated the PingER measurement data, the country populations, the Human Development Index, ICT Development Index and Internet penetration for the Pinger Motion Charts (see https://www-iepm.slac.stanford.edu/pinger/pinger-metrics-motion-chart.html using Firefox and enabling Flash).

Les has arranged to give an invited talk on PingER and monitoring the Internet at the Silicon Valley Samsung HQ 7/17/2019.

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• The IA responded with information on using an IA Python library to archive the data at the IA. Les responded with interest but lack of resources until mid-September at the earliest.  Also maybe after giving a talk at IA (see below) there might be interest in collaborating form some of the attendees.
• The IA also responded pointing to a form to fill out for a request to give a talk at the IA.
  • Les filled out the form a couple of weeks ago but has heard nothing.
  • Les sent an email to the IA to make sure they had received the form and asking if anything else is required.

State of MAs.

Umar compare ICMP and TCP Ping

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