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https://support.zoom.us/hc/en-us/articles/201362033-Getting-Started-on-PC-and-Mac

Exit plan for PingER - Discussion Topic

Time to start thinking about this. Do we need one?

  • Les retired, still active.
  • Bebo's SLAC account expires early 2020, he will bow out then.
  • Topher busy getting funding etc.
  • Umar has left SLAC, but still involved.
  • In the over two decades since PingER started, the Internet and wide area networking have changed dramatically
    • Speeds, deployment,  reliabililty, number of users and applications have improved exponentially
    • There are lots of other monitoring tools nowadays: perfSONAR, ISP monitoring, Akamai

What does it affect?

  • Pakistan monitoring - Wajahat
    • What is the commitment from Pakistan?
  • China - monitoring; big data, blockchain - Saqib
    • Is the current historical data sufficient?
  • ePingER on Android - Amity, Bebo, Topher
    • This is new, Amity would need to take leadership
    • Topher is very busy with getting funding and other projects
    • Bebo less interested partially due to loss of SLAC account early next year
  • Three PingER analysis projects - Amity
    • Title (tentative): Correlation Analysis between network performance and GDP of a country using PingER data. Abstract (tentative):
    • Title (tentative): Comparison of network performance of India and Pakistan using PingER data. Abstract (tentative): 
    • Title (tentative): Data packets loss prediction due to environmental factors. 
    • Is the current historical data sufficient?
  • Compare IPv4 with IPv6 and ICMP versus UDP versus TCP pings - Umar
    • Umar in new job may not have resources/time
    • Measurements probably do not rely on PingER project, rather they can be made ad hoc.
  • Monthly meetings - Les, Umar
    • Scheduling with doodle - Les
    • Making up agenda and current status - Les
    • Invitation via Zoom - Umar
    • Attending - all

Possible scenarios

  • Hard stop
  • Soft stop:
    • Continue running monitors, gathering data, archiving and presenting  as long as SLAC provides storage (1TB) and pinger.slac.stanford.edu VM
      • Give up on monitors after email prompt and no resolution
      • Do not add any extra functions
    • Keep historical data publicly available as long as SLAC provides storage (1TB) and pinger.slac.stanford.edu VM
  • In either case explore what role the Internet Archive might play in maintaining/storing PingER data.
  • Meet with Amity, Topher, Bebo, Les to get their input to
    • Access to PingER historical data
    • their taking leading role
    • ePinger Android futures

Jordan  (Updated 4/25/2019)

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  •  Adib submitted to "Socio-economic Development Indices and Their Reflection on Internet Performance in ASEAN Countries" to Journal: Engineering Science and Technology, an International Journal. They have requested a re-submission since it is over the limit of 10 pages. Adib re-submitted 7/22/2019.

NUST

Wajahat suggested a letter to the higher-ups at NUST about PingER would assist.  Les worked with Wajahat to craft such a letter. It was sent to Wajahat by email 4/3/2019.  It was sent by paper mail 4/4/2019 to Principal SEECS.

  • Wajahat said the letter has been received and a written response is being drafted. Is there an update?
  • They (NUST) would also be interested in other collaborations with SLAC
    • Since Les is no longer an employee of SLAC but rather an emeritus this may complicate things.
    • A possibility might be in high-speed data transfer. It would need a champion from NUST, and a plan and funding to provide access to 100Gbps
Wajahat mentioned a possibility of proposing a project for https://isif.asia/grants/,where it says "These grants will support research focused on the availability, reliability, and security of the Internet, with a particular focus on operational stability and security. The research outcomes should aim to expand access to knowledge, expand coverage for research applications and maximize the benefit to the community. Three small grants of USD 20,000 USD will be allocated, for a total of USD 60,000 in funding." 
Les put together a possible project based on providing a better understanding of routes between Internet hosts.  The early draft document is at: https://confluence.slac.stanford.edu/display/IEPM/Visual+Traceroute+and+Archiving.  This might be the basis for a proposal that Wajahat would lead. Wajahat agreed to try, but there was little time left before it was due. UPDATE?

 

IPv6 host at NUST:

Wajahat has requested Hasan to install PingER on an IPv6 host at NUST, Saqib has contacted Hasan to tell him where to find and upload the code. There is not a host name for the MA yet. Hopefully, this will be available by next month's meeting. UPDATE?

Wajahat has 2 students, he will propose some PingER related projects to them.

Wajahat said that contacts at some sites are not very interested in PingER and wonder why there are so many pings. Thus he believes we need new sites representing the regions of Pakistan that have willing collaborators. Thus we should give up on sites such as CAE and ISRA that have not had any data to gather for a year or so.  Les has since disabled these sites.

We have not been able to gather data from maggie1.seecs.edu.pk since March 2019. Sent email to Wajahat, he responded that it may be an IPv6 host.  Tried accessing using IPv6 but no success.  It has been disabled.

 UAF (University of Agriculture, Faisalabad)/GHZU (Updated 3/3/2019)

Saqib joined the University of Agriculture in Faisalabad. He plans to pursue the blockchain paper. He is undergoing his Mid  Term Probationary Review, Les is on the Technical Review Panel, and submitted a review.

Thailand, Charnsak

UNIMAS

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