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Attendees

Invitees:

Wajahat Hussain? - (SEECS), Saqib (GZHU); Johari? (UNIMAS);  Adib (UUM); Dr. Charnsak Srisawatsakul? (Ubru), Les+, Bebo, Umar?

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Wajahat, Saqib, Les, Bebo, Taha (Skype ID nightwingduck, email taha.ali@seecs.edu.pk)

Others

Wajahat unable to attend: "There is an international conference HONET in SEECS from 8-10. Therefore I won’t be able to attend the meeting."

 

Administration

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Wajahat proposes to get a list of the new Universities in Pakistan and contact them encouraging them to participate in PingER and set up MA. They have made a list of new university sites, communications networks, Labs in different regions of Pakistan (especially the remote regions) and will make contact. 

  • The list of new universities is ready. Just need resources to engage them. 
  • Students were assigned last week. They will need some training and hope to start soon.
  • Les pointed out that several Pakistani MAs have been disabled, i.e. the data is no longer gathered from them.  
    • Wajahat will provide a list of working or potentially working Pakistani MAs to Les, and if they are not enabled, Les will enter or re-enable the gathering of data from these MAs.
  • From Wajahat
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  • 10/
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  • 6/2018. "We are working on the nodes you have mentioned. The intern is new and trying hard to understand the programs. Hopefully within a week he will start repairing the nodes."

Wajahat says (7/10/2018): "I was discussing the blockchain related email that you sent earlier with Dr. Taha (security researcher at SEECS ): "I was discussing the blockchain related email that you sent earlier with Dr. Taha (security researcher at SEECS NUST). He was excited about it. He wanted to try a few things and had a few queries which I was not able to answer.  He might join us in our future meetings."  Dr Taha  DrTaha joined us for the previous meeting and the discussion follows:

  • Dr Taha DrTaha joined this meeting. He has been working with BlockChain (BC) for 3-4 years and recently heard of Pinger
  • He wondered about our interest in BC , since there does not appear to be a strong security interest.  It appears to be mainly a storage issue. BC may be a hinderance since the data will be replicated.
  • Bebo said the interest is more in the way of a de-centralized decentralized system to reduce the dependence on SLAC.
  • The proof of work is nothing like as complex as it is for the cryptocurrency.
  • There are file storage technologies that are distributed but all the data is not at all the sites. In particular, the Inter Planetary InterPlanetary File System (IPFS see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/InterPlanetary_File_System) was mentioned. There is a draft paper.
  • Saqib recently presented a paper (to be published) that used the IPFS and BC to handle issues in the current PingER architecture. Saqib's mobile connection was very poor so he provided the overview below:
      1. In this paper, we proposed nearly the same idea as you mentioned in our last skype meeting. We proposed to store the metadata of PingER measurements on the Blockchain whereas actual data is stored off-chain using IPFS file system. 
      2. For redundancy, we stored the data of each MA at 3 different locations (links of them are stored in BC)  so that it can be successfully retrieved in case the target MA is offline.
      3. We already have a set of 50+ MAs, we are thinking of utilizing them as a peer in BC network.
      4. We are more inclined towards the use of permissioned blockchain (currently our focus is Hyperledger Fabric) where consensus is not computational expensive as peers are pre-authenticated.
    •  This is just an initial idea. I am looking forward to having your comments and feedback.

  • MIT has been working on a system using IPFS together with a revocation capability (e.g. for student degrees/diplomas).

  • PingER does not have a need for revocation or editing of data.

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  • 121.52.146.180 (kohat.edu.pk) down since Nov 22/2017. Wajahat recommends continuing at least until the new student is up to speed (3/8/2018). No data available 3/24/2018. Disabled 10/3/2018.
  • cae.seecs.edu.pk last time we were able to gather any data was February 27th. pinger-ncp.ncp.edu.pk pings but can't gather data 8/11/2017 and 9/16/2017. Contacted. Pings but can't gather data 10/24/2017. They are in the process of restoring 1/17/2018. Still down February 28, 2018, await new student.  (3/8/2018). No data 3/24/2018. Still down 8/6/2018.  It has been Disabled so data is no longer being gathered.  Disabled 8/19/2018.
  • pinger.isra.edu.pk unable to gather data since 3/6/2018, also does not ping. It is working as of September 2nd, 2018. Failed again starting on Sept 5th. It is pinging however all pings fail after 31 pings. Email sent to Wajahat 9/18/2018.
  • Wajahat says they will get these nodes up. These have been good nodes. They just need the weekly push. NUST will push them soon.  No update 8/9/2018.

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HostStatelast seenStatus
pinger.cern.chPingable, web server does not respond. Sent email. Bad disk. Working again 9/17/2018.9/11/2018.Fixed 9/17/2018
pinger.cs.ubru.ac.thAccess to http://pinger.cs.ubru.ac.th/cgi-bin/ping_data.pl from SLAC forbidden starting October 1, 2018. Charnsak found that the raspberry had been moved. He restored it to working order 10/4/2018.9/30/2018Fixed 10/4/2018.
nsi.ampath.netUnable to gather data. Responds to ping and  http://nsi.ampath.net/cgi-bin/ping_data.pl, however, no new data is available. Site responded and it is working again as of 10/3/2018.9/24/20189/30/2018, reminder 10/3/2018. Fixed 10/3/2018.
pinger.stanford.eduUnable to ping the host.  Due to building power maintenance.9/21/201810/3/2018 Fixed
pingersonar-um.myren.net.myNo response6/26/2018 
121.52.146.180 (pinger.kohat.edu.pk) Down. Disabled 10/3/2018Nov 22nd, 2017 
cae.seecs.edu.pkDown disabled 8/19/2018.Feb 27, 2018 
pinger.isra.edu.pkDown, it came up Sep 2-4, 2018. It is pinging, however, all the targets are not responding after 31 tries, email sent to Wajahat 9/18/2018.March 6, 2018 
pingeramity.inIt has been working since 28th July. It is unclear how stable it is. It is down again 9/5/2018. Worked again from 9/24/2018 to 9/28/2018. Emailed Amity requesting clarification 10/3/2018.April 27, 2018 

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