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Wajahat Hussain (SEECS)-, Saqib (GZHU)+; Johari (UNIMAS)?;  Adib (UUM)?+; Fizi Jalil (MYREN);  Dr. Charnsak Srisawatsakul (Ubru)+, Les+, Bebo+(in UK 8hours ahead of Pacific Summer time), Umar+

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  • Their PingER MA is up and running and we are successfully gathering some data.  
    • However, there is a problem with not being able to find data in the requested time window.
    • There is also a problem with a missing beacons.txt.
    • Les is working with Amity, emails sent May 28th and June 3rd, 2018.
      • Need to load the most recent version of gathering application (ping_data.pl) to assist in diagnosing problem. 
      • Check if Amity can upload beacons.txt table from SLAC.  They say they can.
  • The Android version of the PingER MA 
    • We are looking at how to store the data and set up a proxy 

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Unable to gather data from pinger.uum.edu.my. Adib thinks thehave a problem in their domain name. He. will follow up with uum computer center. 

 

Adib, Bebo, Les met with Southampton Web observatory person. There seemed to be enthusiasm. Adib was going to send some materials to Southampton. The person at Southampton gave us some links. Adib is in the early stages of exploring what web observatory data to link with such as business context indicators, social media and government sites. There was no update 3/29/2018, or 5/3/2018. Any update, should we stop tracking?

NUST: (Updated 5/3/2018))

The web page http://maggie.seecs.nust.edu.pk was not working, email sent to Wajahat 6/3/2018, it has been re-discovered and is working

The web page http://maggie.seecs.nust.edu.pk is not working, email sent to Wajahat 6/3/2018.

No intern has joined Wajahat's Lab. So there is not much progress.

Wajahat proposes to get a list of the new Universities in Pakistan and contact them encouraging them to participate in PingER and set up MA. They have made a list of new university sites, communications networks, Labs in different regions of Pakistan (especially the remote regions) and will make contact.

  • The list of new universities is ready. Just need resource resources to engage them. 
  • Unsure how this is affected by lack of interns.

There is an upcoming grant call for projects between Pakistan and the US. Topics may be focused on cybersecurity, health, and education. It has not been announced yet. Wajahat will get the details and share them with the team as soon as they are available. It is interesting since getting a US partner appears to be a roadblock for many potential Pakistani responders. However, the topics may not be very related to PingER. NUST is looking at applying to set up a cyber lab. Getting the funding will be in competition with other Pakistani Universities. For cyber the main things we could think of from PingER were: quantifying what fraction of hosts block pings, punching holes in firewalls to allow pings, how to misuse ping (e.g. ping-of-death, or using anomalous ping packets to deduce the OS etc. flood pings for DOS), the host can respond to ping but applications do not work.  Fear of misuse of pings can result in the system administrator, network administrator or cybersecurity blocking pings. A possibility might be a study of what fraction of say working www/dns etc. apps (i.e. checking if a host responds to the relevant port) do not respond to pings.  This could be by application, by country or by region etc.  Also how to protect a remote pinger traceroute or server from being used in DOS attacks. As of 3/27/2018 there is no call so far. There was one last year, so Wajahat is expecting one. Emailed Wajahar 6/3/2018 asking for update. He responded "There is no call yet. There was one last year. May be change in the US-Pak policy. Just a guess."

Discussion items

Wajahat is hoping to get few students to work on Master thesis related to pinger data. If possible kindly share ideas related to data analytics which he can share with students

  • Suggestions anyone?

 Wajahat also asked:

  •  “Has any work gone into to predicting the cause of failures(blackout, flood, coup (turkey)) using pinger data?”
  • Les> there have been several case studies looking at the impacts of failures, however nothing on predicting failures. I am not sure how one might use PinGER to predict the cause of a failure. For some cases (e.g. earthquakes, tsunamis, flood, coup), it is unclear to me how Network performance monitoring could add to other means of predicting the cause.
  • Wajahat's thinking is along the lines of "Regarding other sources, I was thinking, internet is the pulse of digital world. Other sources require additional setup that might not be a possibility in developing countries. Internet being a necessity and having other uses is still prevalent in these developing countries. Can it be used as a real time sensor."
  • Again I am forwarding the question in case others in the team may have some suggestions?

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  • Dr Ali Khayam (ex NUST) is now at Amazon.  He has a colleague at Amazon (Awais Nemet) who heads the External Network Services group for AWS. Awais is kicking off many projects in the Internet monitoring space and Ali recommended that Awais talks to Les to learn about the experiences of operating Pinger and leveraging the data that Pinger generated.  Les updated the PingER front page at http://www-iepm.slac.stanford.edu/pinger/)  so he could  could walk Awais through PingERthem. If you have suggestions for example better logos at the bottom of http://www-iepm.slac.stanford.edu/pinger/ or other links, please let Les know.

     

HostStatelast seenStatus
pinger-ncp.ncp.edu.pkpinger-ncp.ncp.edu.pk downNov 29, 2017 
121.56.146.180 (pinger.kohat.edu.pk) DownNov 22nd, 2017 
cae.seecs.edu.pkDownFeb 27, 2018 
pinger.isra.edu.pkDownMarch 6, 2018 
pinger2.if.ufrj.brFlaky, down since 4/28/2018, and out of disk space, pinger.xml truncated, emaile, sent email 4/28/2017, they are looking at itApril 4/28/2018Fixed 5/26/2018.
pingeramity.inIt is partially working. Now working on missing beacons.txt file and missing data (i.e data disappears a few hours after it is measured and saved at MA). Also it is unable to access http://www-iepm.slac.stanford.edu/pinger/beacons.txtApril 27, 2018 

pinger.uum.edu.my

Unable to gather data since 5/26/2018. Unable to ping. Sent email to Adib 6/1/2018.May 26/2018. 
netmon.physics.carleton.caUnable to gather data, host is pingable, emailed contact 6/4/2018. Fixed 6/6/2018.June 1st, 2018 

Next Meeting

Next meeting:  Thursday, July 5th 9pm Pacific time; Friday, July 6th, 2018  9:00am Pakistan time; 12:00noon Malaysian & Guangzhou time; and 11am Thailand time.

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