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Wajahat Hussain+ (SEECS), Saqib (AUFUAF), Johari? (UNIMAS);  Adib? (Turkey), Dr. Charnsak Srisawatsakul (Ubru), Eyad Ayoubi?- (JordanTurkey), Baraa Muslmani? ( Jordan), Dr. Shadi Jawarneh (Jordan), Bebo White+, Umar Kalim?, Les Cottrell+

  •  + Responded via Doodle can attend; - Responded, but unable to attend on this date; ? extra email sent asking if attending 
  • Email addresses (all the following are in pinger-my).
    • cottrell@slac.stanford.edu; wajahat.hussain@seecs.edu.pk; saqibutm@outlook.com; johari.abdullah@gmail.com; adibhabbal@karabuk.edu.tr; charnsak.s@ubru.ac.th; eyadayoubi@gmail.com; b.muslmani@yahoo.com; shadi.jawarneh@yahoo.com; bebo@slac.stanford.edu; umar.kalim@gmail.com; xsaifahmadx@gmail.com
  • The link for the Doodle poll is https://doodle.com/poll/9wc4hxwakqk74wkh
Actual Attendees

Wajahat and Les. Bebo came down with a bad cold and could not attend.

Others

Administration

Use of Zoom

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  • Baraa has just graduated from Princess Sumaya University with a Masters Degree (Major: Enterprise Systems Engineering) and is looking for Universities to continue his education (PhD.)
    • 7/24/2019 Les sent email to Baraa aksing whether and how might Baraa's future affect the MA in Jordan.
    • 7/24/2019 Baraa responded "I will have to check with my system's administrator regarding that, however I will do my best to keep the MA live.". However, Baraa responded 8/15/2019 "Since I will be leaving. The new system administrator turned it off." Les has disabled it.

Turkey (No update 7/23/2019)

Eyad emailed: "I have gathered some information about how to have a public IP address and it seems it is not complicated, just a subscription with the ISP, I will discuss in the next meeting". Sent email requesting update 5/26/2019. 5/27/2019 Eyad responded no progress yet. Another email sent 8/25/2019, Eyad responded 8/25/2019: " I am looking for a PhD position,  In Turkey I tried my best to have a public IP but still have no results, I will keep trying and give you updates/"

We also received an unsolicited email: " We are employing PingER in Hasan Kalyoncu University, in Turkey, We also received an unsolicited email: " We are employing PingER in Hasan Kalyoncu University, in Turkey, for the purpose of conducting researches on the Internet performance in Turkey."
We are unable to gather data since it is a private IP address (10.15.2.146). Sent email 7/3/2019 asking for update. Sent a repeat email 7/24/2019 suggesting testing if they have a public IP address and the web server is accessible. Sent another email explaining private vs public IP address 8/9/2019. No response. Will give up.

Amity (Updated 7/24/2019)

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  • Bebo contacted Amity to discuss futures, also see the recent history at the bottom under Old Information. Also the MA is very unreliable.
  • Amity responded 7/31/2019: with:

    • A document containing brief information about work completed  (for both android and data analysis team).

    • We will fix a date around first week of August. We will confirm the same soon 

    • Confluence papers are online and the details are Confluence papers are online and the details are in PingerAmityStatus_pdf

    • The Resume of our current team members is also submitted .

Adib  (Updated 7/22/2019)

    • We will fix a date around the first week of August. We will confirm the same soon. 

  • Following discussions with Bebo after the meeting, we agreed to let Amity take the leading role and will wait to hear from them.

  • Les also contacted Amity to see if they can provide any input for target sites in Jammu Kashmir so we can monitor them and look for any correlations in Internet performance following the revocation of JK's special status by India. See Jammu Kashmir 2019.

Adib  (Updated 7/22/2019)

  •  Adib submitted to "Socio-economic  Adib submitted to "Socio-economic Development Indices and Their Reflection on Internet Performance in ASEAN Countries" to Journal: Engineering Science and Technology, an International Journal. They have requested a re-submission since it is over the limit of 10 pages. Adib re-submitted 7/22/2019.
    • 8/26/2019 status of this submission has changed to Revision Requested.

NUST (Updated 7/24/2019)

Wajahat mentioned a possibility of proposing a project for https://isif.asia/grants/,where it says "These grants will support research focused on the availability, reliability, and security of the Internet, with a particular focus on operational stability and security. The research outcomes should aim to expand access to knowledge, expand coverage for research applications and maximize the benefit to the community. Three small grants of USD 20,000 USD will be allocated, for a total of USD 60,000 in funding." 
  • Les put together a possible project based on providing a better understanding of routes between Internet hosts.  The early draft document is at: https://confluence.slac.stanford.edu/display/IEPM/Visual+Traceroute+and+Archiving.  This might be the basis for a proposal that Wajahat would lead. 
  • Wajahat reported at the meeting (7/23/2019) that he had submitted a proposal.
  • However, there was a section on a Business Plan, and Wajahat did not know how to respond to this and left it empty.
  • Didn’t go through due to lack of details.
 

There appears to be no response from NUST concerning the letter about PingER that Les sent them.

IPv6 host at NUST:

Wajahat has requested Hasan to install PingER on an IPv6 host at NUST, Saqib has contacted Hasan to tell him where to find and upload the code. There is not a host name for the MA yet. Hopefully, this will be available by next month's meeting.

  •  7/24/2019 Les emailed Wajahat with a request for an update./2019 Les emailed Wajahat with a request for an update.
  • At the meeting Wajahat had asked the student to contact Saqib and get the information on energizing IPv6. Saqib provided the information, but the student could not access the URL (apparently the URlLwas down). Wajahat was on leave and when he returned the internship had expired, so Wajahat is unsure what happened. Wajahat will start a new student next week and will set him on the IPv6 project. 

Wajahat has 2 students, he will propose some PingER related projects to them. He says students do not appear to have much interest in Internet monitoring and getting funding is a major issue.to have much interest in Internet monitoring and getting funding is a major issue.

The recent move to revoke the special status of Jammu Kashmir may result  in impacts on the Internet performance, so we are looking for PingER target in JK. 

UAF (University of Agriculture, Faisalabad)/GHZU (Updated

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8/24/2019)

Saqib is undergoing his Mid  Term Probationary Review at the University. 8/26/2019 Saqib says "It is in process."

Saqib plans to continue work on PingER monitoring for remote areas, in particular in Pakistan. He will use Android PingERs. This may partially tie into the Amity project.

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The 4th  Call for Proposals for The Asi@Connect Project are now open. Saqib will submit a concept note in WP6 with Wajahat and Les as co-applicant.

  • 8/25/2019: Emailed Saqib with a request for an update. Saqib replied hopefully in September.

Les succeded in renewing Saqib's account at SLAC.

Thailand, Charnsak (No update 7/23/2019)

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MA is down, email sent asking for update 8/25/2018.

SLAC (Updated

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2019) 

Les has arranged to give an invited talk on PingER and monitoring the Internet at the Silicon Valley Samsung HQ 7/17/2019.

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  • The IA responded with information on using an IA Python library to archive the data the data at the IA. Les responded with interest but lack of resources until mid-September at the earliest.  Also maybe after giving a talk at IA (see below) there might be interest in collaborating form some of the attendees.
  • The IA also responded pointing to a form to fill out for a request to give a talk at the IA. Les responded with interest but lack of resources until mid-September at the earliest.  Also maybe after giving a talk at IA (see below) there might be interest in collaborating form some of the attendees.The IA also responded pointing to a form to fill out for a request to give a talk at the IA.
  • Les filled out the form.
    • Les sent an email to the IA to make sure they had received the form and asking if anything else is required
    • Les filled out the form.
    • Les sent an email to the IA to make sure they had received the form and asking if anything else is required.

Looked at ping access (via Avg-RTT, Min-RTT and loss) to up to 10 Hong Kong hosts (mainly Universities) in last 120 days. Unable to see any direct correlation between days of civil demonstrations and ping metrics.

Trying to find some Kashmir hosts.  Have 2 potentials. Will share the information with Wajahat and Amity. See Jammu Kashmir 2019.

All hosts in Djibouti stopped responding, found another host via Wikipedia.

State of MAs.

Host
State
last seen
Status
212.118.12.186This is an MA at Telephonic in Amman Jordan. Sent email 8/9/2019.8/6/2019Disabled
pinger.sprace.org.brNot pingable, emails sent 7/25/2019, 8/8/2019. One of the contacts is no longer at that email address, not sure about the other. No response by 8/25/2019.7/16/2019 Disabled 8/29/2019
pinger.uum.edu.myUnable to gather data since 2nd May 2019. Host is pingable. Sent email 5/5/2019 to Adib, he will contact Dr. Suhaidi. Sent reminder 5/14/2019, Adib has contacted Dr Suhaidi who will get someone to help. Still down 6/2/2019, sent another reminder to Adib. Adib nudged Sohail. 6/19/2019 emailed Adib. 6/26/2019 Adib responded "Prof. Suhaidi has promised to follow up, but he was fully occupied / outstation early this month.Kindly give our friends some time ^_*". Sent reminder email 8/25/2019.5/2/2019 
pinger.unimas.myUnable to gather data, does not ping. Email sent 5/24/2019. Johari responded that he will look at it. Sent reminder 6/2/2019 & 6/19/2019. Johari responded 6/19/2019: Issue started when UNIMAS started join domain policy which requires all PC connected to the LAN network to join the domain. Easily done for Windows based PC but we are having problem to configure the Linux server to do so. Still trying to find solution to this. Sent email to Johari 8/25/2019 asking for update.5/20/2019 
pingeramity.inContinues to be unstable. Email 8/29/2019.  
pinger6.cs.ubru.ac.th

Stopped being pingable 2/25/2019. Thus by default, the gathering failed. Emailed Charnsak 3/4/2019, 3/15/2019. Down again 4/23/2019, restored 4/27/2019. Down again 6/6/2019. It is pingable. Sent email 7/5/2019. No response. Sent another email 7/24/2019 , 3/15/2019. Down again 4/23/2019, restored 4/27/2019. Down again 6/6/2019. It is pingable. Sent email 7/5/2019. No response. Sent another email 7/24/2019 it was not pingable. No response by 8/25/2019.

2/25/2019

it was not pingable. Fixed 8/15/2019, then down again 8/24/2019, it is pingable from SLAC. Unable to ping from http://pinger6.cs.ubru.ac.th/cgi-bin/traceroute.pl?function=ping&target=www.slac.stanford.edu&options=-i%200.2. Email 8/28/2019.

2/25/2019.
pinger.cs.ubru.ac.thDown starting 8/19/2019, unable to ping from SLAC. Email 8/28/2019.  .

Umar compare ICMP and TCP Ping

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Next meeting:  There will be a Doodle poll, for August 12-18  or August 19-22 September at 10 pm Pacific time; a day later 10:00 am Pakistan time; 10:30 am India time; 1:00 pm Malaysian & Guangzhou time;  2:00 pm Thailand time; 7:00 am Jordan time. 6:00am Turkey time.  

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