Attendees

Anjum, Kashif, Les, JounJohari. Raja and Umar Nara were unable to be present.

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Workshop

We had a meeting with UNIMAS and UM on 11/15/2012. Background information can be found here and the minutes are also available. Kashif and Anjum hope plan to attend. We will probably meet in KL before going onto Kuching.

Johari says the invitations have been emailed to Anjum and Kashif. They have received them and sent a visa request to the embassy. The embassy does not open until Tuesday. Last time Anjum went for a visa it took 31 days. The advertised normal time is 15 days. It's getting tight.

For the KL visit, Johari has sent invitations to

• Telecom R&D
• MIMOS
• Malaysian Communications and Multi Media Commission
• MYREN
• UM (to Siti)

Nara will also be present. The meeting place has to be determined. It may be MIMOS or UM. We expect the meeting to start at 9:00am and end ny 1:00pm.

We will fly to Kuching on Malaysian Airlines. Probably MH2526 leave KUL 18:25 (737-400) arrive KCH 20:10 (non stop).

Kashif will book his flights to and from ISL-KUL-KCH. UNIMAS will book Kashif's flights. Anjum will provide his flight details to Johari.

Kashif and Les will share darfts of their presentations in a week and a half so they can be coordinated.

UNIMAS monitoring host

UNIMAS is monitoring other Malaysian and Indonesian hosts outside the regular Beacons. There was a problem with not measuring the individual pings. this This was caused by a change in the format of the ping response. This has been fixed in the master copy at SLAC (but not in the tarball) and UNIMAS.

There is a problem with the UNIMAS traceroute. It appears pinger.unimas.my is behind a NAT that is not passing the traceroute UDP probes. Any ideas Joun?

I have fixed the web site providing script documentation. It is at http://www-iepm.slac.stanford.edu/pinger/scripttable.html. The problem was a failing web service.

I have extended ping_data_plot.pl to enable showing more days. I also fixed connectivity.pl to showw all todays data so far.

From Arshad: Rector has agreed to support one person visit to SLAC. Please select the best candidate. Arshad is away in either the UK or Korea. When he returns Anjum will get more information. It could be 6 months or a year, and will probably be Kashif. This should be settled by Nov 21, 2012.

Pakistani Hosts

Pakistani monitors: good=36, no_data=6, partial_data=7, problems=13, total=49,   # last meeting it was good = 32.
PERN monitors: good=11, no_data=1, partial_data=2, total=14, problems=3,  # last meeting it was good = 8

Pingerpwr had an IP address issue (they need to change their address). This has been fixed. PIEAS and IIU have new installations in progress. They are both down. PIEAS has a security concern. IIU were going to do their own install, then requested Joun to do the install but they have not provided access to Joun,

Joun and Kashif visited Air University PoP (pingerisl-air.pern.edu.pk) node on friday 16th Nov. Joun did the new installation and they even changed the SFP converter at router but the problem was still there. Then luckily the HEC Guy was also there and we requested him to check the router configuration. He changed the port and settings and then the node got another life. The node is working fine now. 

The SAU strike is over but they were then short of IP addresses. This has now been fixed. now there are power problems.

The problem of traffic between FSBD and Quetta going via Europe due to not having a Pakistan IXP has been by passed by keeping all traffic both ways on WorldCall.

Since there is no IXP in Pakistan so the peering is done abroad. Anwar Amjad (of HEC) would like NUST to put together a workshop/meeting to look at providing a neutral point for an IXP for PTCL, SuperNet and WorldCom. If the IXP is at HEC then it will need to upgrade all its links to PERN-II so it can carry the extra traffic. If this is funded it could take 4-6 months. 

Non Pakistani Hosts

I am actively working with Algeria, currently the host is not pingable, I am awaiting a reply from Algeria..  UCSD is back up. UERJ/Brazil has a routing problem. UFRJ and Taiwan are also having problems.I have sent email to UFRJ. Taiwan appears to be back up (Dec 17).

TULIP

Raja has been busy defending his proposal on (Nov 5th), so there is no progress on TULIP. A suggestion taht came out of the defense was to use TBG constraints. However this is very time consuming. So how to use it optimally will take some study.

Raja understands the CGI code in Matlab. He is working on the MatLab version to add a lookup table to allow the choice of Alpha to be based on region and min RTT. When he has this working he will work on porting from MatLab to Mathematica.

It may also make sense to look at using a modified outer circle. I.e. instead of distance (radius in km)= 100km/ms*min_RTT(ms), use distances(radius in km)=alpha_max*100km/mx*min_RTT(ms) where alpha_max is the maximum alpha for landmarks to target in a given region.

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Statistical analysis of Alpha

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Raja has written a report on the alpha findings from his analysis. I made some suggestions but have not heard anything. 

At the start you say identify Africa as one of the regions. However there is no data on Africa. You might add something on why you chose to focus on Europe, N. America and Pakistan. My understanding is that for other regions the main reason was there were insufficient landmarks to be able to make reasonable estimates (i.e TULIP was very inaccurate). Were there other reasons. Do you have any data to justify this conclusion (e.g. the inaccuracy of TULIP).

Your conclusion indicates we can use a range of alphas that depends on the min-RTT and region. This is instead of using an upper range of alpha of 1 as is done in the original CBG. You provide a table of min, max alpha for the 3 regions. Can you extend this to recommended ranges of alpha not just by region but also for min-RTT, e.g. provide a table or the min alpha and max alpha as function of min-RTT and region. How do you get these min and max values. Are they the max and min possible or say the 10% and 90%

In one of your analyses you showed a more detailed graph for Pakistan (attached). You might want to show this. Does it make anything more apparent?

Johari has sent email to the network/syste, admins, but does not have a response, he will follow up with a reminder. ther traceroute/ping server is important for the TULIP trilateration project.

Johari can you add some extra Philippines EDU sites, the one you are monitoring (www.usep.edu.ph) seems anomalous. Some examples are below:

NODENAME: www.swu.edu.ph
IPADDRESS: 121.96.58.6
SITENAME: swu.edu.ph
NICKNAME: PH.SWU.EDU.N1
FULLNAME: Southwestern University
LOCATION: Villa Aznar, Urgello St., Cebu City
COUNTRY: Philippines
CONTINENT: S.E. Asia
LATANDLONG: 10.3021 123.8931
PROJECTTYPE: NOT-SET
PINGSERVER: NOT-SET
TRACESERVER: NOT-SET
DATASERVER: NOT-SET
URL: http://www.swu.edu.ph

NODENAME: www.auf.edu.ph
IPADDRESS: 210.4.97.195
SITENAME: auf.edu.ph
NICKNAME: PH.AUF.EDU.N1
FULLNAME: Angeles University Foundation
LOCATION: 2009 Angeles City
COUNTRY: Philippines
CONTINENT: S.E. Asia
LATANDLONG: 15.1450 120.5943
PROJECTTYPE: NOT-SET
PINGSERVER: NOT-SET
TRACESERVER: NOT-SET
DATASERVER: NOT-SET
URL: http://www.auf.edu.ph

SEECS

From Arshad: Rector has agreed to support one person visit to SLAC. Kashif is the likely candidaet and it looks like a year. However, there is a problem with the bond. Arshad is studying how to resolve.

PingER at SLAC

I have fixed the web site providing script documentation. It is at http://www-iepm.slac.stanford.edu/pinger/scripttable.html. The problem was a failing web service.

I have extended ping_data_plot.pl to enable showing more days. I also fixed connectivity.pl to showw all todays data so far.Possible projects

Future meeting time - Les

Next meeting Wednesday Dec 5th 8:00pm Pacific Daylight Time, Thursday Dec 6th 9:00pm Pakistan time, Thursday Dec 6th 12:00noon Malaysian time. This will be the last meeting before the workshop. Johari plans to attend.