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Wajahat is recovering from numerous infections, starting to visit office once again (2/17/2020)

Actual Attendees

Umar, Bebo, Kiran.

Use of Zoom

IMPORTANT NOTE: The meeting is set up to record automatically. By joining the meeting you are agreeing to be recorded (see details

Roger (Les) Cottrell is inviting you to a scheduled Zoom meeting.

Topic: PingER Collaboration meeting 

Topic: Roger (Les) Cottrell's Zoom Meeting

Time: Apr 16, 2020 09:00 PM Pacific Time (US and Canada)

Join Zoom Meeting.

https://zoom.us/j/98304541563?pwd=cEI1TDNpYzJCaWhtS0s4QWI0MmFyZz09

Meeting ID: 983 0454 1563

It requires a password provided in email invitation

Now might be a good time to update your Zoom app to make it more secure.

How to set up and use Zoom:

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Umar was able to get in using the password Les provided.
After Bebo entered the meeting Les saw he was on and was able to accept him. Same for Kiran.

The meeting was for 45 minutes, there was a 10 minute warning.:w

Amity 

Amity team photo:

 

Bebo

Bebo brought our attention to a report from KeepitOn on the 213 Internet shutdowns in 2019. An internet shutdown happens when someone — usually a government — intentionally disrupts the internet or mobile apps to control what people say or do.

NUST

We are working on maggie2, monitor and nwfpuet:

  • On 2/16/2020 sent emails to Kiran about monitor.seecs.edu.pk not being pingable, maggie2.seecs.edu.pk not responding to  http://maggie2.seecs.edu.pk/cgi-bin/ping_data.pl?, and pinger.nwfpuet.edu.pk looking like it has a bad pinger.xml file (missing the BeaconList).
  • Emails exchanged on maggie2 2/18/2020. Not there yet. 
  • 2/26/2020 corresponded with Kiran via zoom to clarify problems. She is working on monitor, maggie2, nwfpuet.
  • 4/14/2020 Kiran reports: "due to coronavirus we are not going to university. But I have requested the university admin to cooperate with me and install a teamviewer so that I can remotely access the PC and the monitor and maggie2. If the university does so then I will call you on skype so that we can resolve the issue." Kiran has no time estimate as to when this may happen. Kiran's current post terminates in Sept 2020.

UAF (University of Agriculture, Faisalabad)UAF (University of Agriculture, Faisalabad)/GHZU

Saqib plans to continue work on PingER monitoring for remote areas, in particular in Pakistan. He will use Android PingERs. This may partially tie into the Amity project.

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Saqib plans to get 2-3 undergraduate students in a month or so and plans to look at Android PingER.

SLAC

. No update 4/16/2020.

/afs/slac.stanford.edu/package/pinger/prm/prm.pl -lp true -c /afs/slac.stanford.edu/package/pinger/prm/prm-last120days-slac.conf 

UMAR

SLAC

  • Bebo posed the question of whether PingER can identify changes in Internet responsiveness as measured by PingER as a result of the impact of the Covid-19 virus.
  • The first attempts looking et PingER
  • Bebo posed the question of whether PingER can identify changes in Internet responsiveness as measured by PingER as a result of the impact of the Covid-19 virus.
  • The first attempts looking et PingER statistics and see if there were any noticeable changes in performance attributable to Covid-19 interventions (e.g. shutting down schools,  social distancing, gathering cancellations, lockdowns), were not very successful (see PingER and COVID-19). See https://covid19-interventions.com/ for interventions in European, and some Asian countries.
  • Another attempt to correlate the impacts might be to use a tool such as Google Motion Charts to look for correlations between say Covid-19 cases (cases, hospital admissions, deaths etc) and PingER metrics as a function of time, by country, continent, plus population or density of population. The idea is that as Covid-19 cases pass say 100, the country will impose interventions such as school closing,  social distancing etc. which will change the usage patterns of the Internet which may have noticeable impacts on the PingER measurements.
  • Unfortunately Google Motion metrics relies on Flash and is no longer supported .
    • A possible alternative is Charta.ca
    • I have therefore put together a Perl script (chart-covid.pl) to take daily PingER metrics for the last 120 days together with up-to-date raw data on the coronavirus from the Johns HopkinsUniversity GitHub site: https://github.com/CSSEGISandData/COVID-19, for various countries with their population, area, population density and cast the data in a format suitable for Charta.ca.
    • There is a web page I put together on how to use Charta.ca at Using Chart.ca.
    • There is an example at https://charteca.blob.core.windows.net/pubs/3Z3qcBXqCT9B3WHz
    • Instead of using Covid-19 confirmed cases, it might be good to use the Unacast cell phone location data to get a measure of how people are social distancing. I have sent them two emails but no response.
  • Discussion:

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    • . This may have had some impact on PingER metrics.
    • Les pointed out that many of our targets (and of course the SLAC Measurement Agent) for the US (ESnet and Internet2), Europe (Dante, and national education/research networks etc.), Australia (AARNET) and parts of Asia (TEIN) are on well-provisioned, lightly loaded networks so it is the transit networks are not expected to see big changes.
    • Umar pointed out that the closing of schools, people staying at home should increase the traffic (e.g. between students and profs teaching remotely, people surfing the web watching videos etc) on CDNs (Content Deliverable Networks), and much of this traffic is on public networks. Thus one might see big changes for traffic transitting public networks. 
    • Since PingER is not monitoring homes and content deliverers, PingER would not expect to see big changes in responsiveness for most of our targets in the above regions.
    • On the other hand, African networks are less well developed and PingER may see more of an effect for such targets.

State of MAs.

Host
State
last seen
Status
pinger.nchc.org.tw Intermittent problems starting 11/9/2019, it is not pingable starting 11/12/2019. Fixed 3/24/2020.  
pinger.rmutsv.ac.thUnable to gather data since November 13, 2019. Host is pingable. Sent email to chaisit.c@rmutsv.ac.th 3/26/2020. No response by 4/13/2020  
pinger.gcwuf.edu.pkUnable to gather data since 3/31/2020, host is not pingable. Email sent to Saqib 4/13/20203/31/2020 
pinger.vu.edu.pkUnable to gather data since 29th August, 2019. The host is pingable. Emailed Wajahat 11/3/2019. Wajahat responded 11/11/2019 "Anything improved?". Les responded they are still not working with more details and suggesting we focus on vu. 11/20/2019 Les asks if there is an update? Wajanat responded 11/20/2019 "These guys are not responding. We are trying to contact them. Already tried multiple times." This just applies to vu. Wajahat recommends we keep trying to gather data. I have turned off the warnings. Kiran fixed it 2/3/2020 by restoring the pinger.xml file following email instructions from Les8/28/2019Fixed 2/3/2020.
comsatsswl.seecs.edu.pkUnable to gather data since 3/26/20210, hoast not pingable. Disabled by Cottrell 4/13/2020.  
monitor.seecs.edu.pkNo data since 10/29/2019, host is pingable email to Wajahat 11/7/2019. Reminder to Kiran and Wajahat 2/16/2020. Host not pingable sent email to Kiran and Wajahat 3/3/2020. Email sent to Kiran and Wajahat 4/13/2020.10/27/2019 
maggie2.seecs.edu.pkNo data since 11/4/2019, host is pingable email to Wajahat 11/2/2019, 11/20/2019. Reminder to Kiran and Wajahat 2/16/2020. Host no longer pingable, sent email to Kiran and Wajahat 3/3/2020. Email sent to Kiran and Wajahat 4/13/2020.  
pinger.nwfpuet.edu.pkSomething amiss since April 2019 when it dropped from monitoring over 150 targets down to 4. There is nothing in <BeaconsList>, all the hosts it attempts to monitor are in the locally manually maintained <NodeList>. Does not ping by name. Email sent 11/7/2019, and again 11/20/2019. Reminder to Kiran and Wajahat 2/16/2020. Email sent to Kiran and Wajahat 4/13/2020.  

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