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- Responded but  Unable to attend: 

Kashif, Raja, Johari, Saqib, Les, Bebo

Actual attendees:

Administration

  • Adib is waiting to hear from colleague (Dr. Nordin: chair of ISTT2014), there was no update as of this meeting. The conference is 2 days so the workshop may be squeezed to one day. The conference will be held in Langkawi between 24-26 Nov.  

    Hopefully, this will help us to attract good number of participants and get sponsor/support to cover our expenditure. Other option is to conduct the workshop in UUM, we are ready to provide Local Arrangement (lab, local transportation, and food). But there is no funding provided by the school  to support the transportation/accommodation of the  speakers.

  • Anjum will try and contact Adib. Anjum is also putting together a conference on cloud computing in November. Anjum We do not have a particular date. Anjum believes it is possible to co-locate the PingEr PingER workshop with this conference. The emphasis would be on PingER as a source of Big Data. This could also involve Bebo, Ridzuan and Ibrahim.

    Adib or Johari shall be able to inform relating our discussion. Adib is trying a number of options and there is some progress. 

    Anjum  talked to his supervisor. He is showing revived interest in PingerPingeR. He was busy the day Anjum talked to him. Anjum will have another meeting with him on friday Friday to further discuss the possibility of combining the conference with workshop.

  • Les will be in Burkina Faso Nov 13-21. He flies back to London on Nov 22nd.  He can get to Malaysia mid morning November 24th. Thus the workshop should be at the end of the ISTT2014 meeting if Les is to attend.

  • Bebo will be Western Australia, Okinawa and possibly Singapore in November. Bebo will send his expected dates/itinerary.
  • Anjum suggested putting together a paper on metrics provided by PingER for Sigmetrix. The due date is in November.

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Badrul is still awaiting hearing from his student (Abdulrahim Haroun Ali) on  the paper on anomalies in PingER measurements  and will update later once the paper ready.   No word from Badrul 6/4/2014. 

Ridzuan has Ridzuan has put together a rough proposal to use Hadoop to store and make available PingER data.  He is evaluating several vendors version of Hadoop 2.0 installations to decide which is the right one to adopt. Last time he successfully installed and tried Hadoop 1.0 but then it has many drawbacks such as no real-time streaming processing.  Johari sent information on the Myren Cloud. The web site  is as follows: https://cloud.myren.net.my/. It gives information about the service and how to apply, plus user guide is available from the website. As for Ridzuan, he should be eligible to register for the service, but he needs to check with  UM (University Malaya) procedures for applying for the service.   No word from Ridzuan 6/4/2014.

Ibrahim Abaker  is planning to work on a topic initially entitled " leveraging pingER big data with a modified pingtable for event-correlation and clustering".  Ibrahim has a proposal, see https://confluence.slac.stanford.edu/download/attachments/17162/leveraging+pingER+big+data+with+a+modified+pingtable+for+event-correlation+and+clustering.docx. He is currently spending  time reading about RDF storage and its retrieval, also he is  trying to setup Hadoop clusters for the experiment. He is in email discussion with Renan on which part to work on first. He plans to  collaborate with Renan to make the pinger store and process more efficient. Les has sent him documentation of PinGER which is very helpful. Ridzuans' work is more to do with hosting the data and stream data analysis. Ibrahim is looking more at applying MapReduce ( programming model for processing large data sets with a parallel, distributed algorithm on a cluster), reducing the storage needs and providing querying of the data. No word from Ibrahim 6/4/2014.

UNIMAS

 

Dr. Adnan Shahid Khan who recently joined UNIMAS, will be joining our PingER group and will help with the current PingER initiative in UNIMAS.  His contact details have been updated at the PingER Malaysia website (http://pinger.unimas.my/pinger/contact.php). Badrul has been requested to add Adnan's email address to the pinger mailing list. Once he is up to speed on PingER he will join the group.

The Raspberry Pi is at the data The Raspberry Pi is at the data centre and has a public IP address. The private IP address works but not the public. Johari reports no progress 4/8/2014, 4/23/2014.It was working last week, until the UPS failed over the weekend. It did mnot reboot itself. Johari will look at the problem. 

The tool to enable synchronizing Malaysian monitors is completed. It has been tested by Saqib. Saqib requested to add sorting the HostList by country, Johari will add this.

The traceroute server at http://pinger2.unimas.my/cgi-bin/traceroute.pl  has the same problem as before. They know (sort of) the problem but haven't got the chance to rectify it (mapping NAT address, needs to be added). There is no progress 12/4/2013, 1/8/2013, 1.22.2014, 2/5/2014, 3/26/2014, 4/8/2014, 4/23/2014, 6/4/2014. Now that the historical traceroutes are working for UM (see below) there is an extra incentive to get the reverse traceroute working at UTM and UNIMAS

Custom iso: He can get as far as the boot screen, but is unable to get to the desktop. No progress 2/5/2014, 4/23/2014, 6/4/2014.

Johari has created a shell script to automate the installation of pinger package in Ubuntu/Linux distro.  He has finished  the Fedora and Centos implementations. There are some permissions problems. He plans to work on it in the coming week. Once it is working he will give it to Kashif to test.   Johari has added a page at pinger.unimas.my/pinger website on the usage of a shell script to automate the installation steps for pinger package. It is available at  http://pinger.unimas.my/pinger/install-tutorial.php. Johari plans to send to Kashif next week for testing..php. 

Johari has a research student who finalized a proposal in order to officially apply for his masters.  He will start in February. He is currently working on threshold/anomaly detection, and will extend to correlating performance over multiple routes. He will share the proposal with Les and others April. No progress 6/4/2014.

UTM 

No updates regarding traceroute problem at UTM. However, Saqib thinks the problem is still in CICT firewall or router as tcp traceroute command works fine from UTM.

The Malaysian Case study is completed. Saqib has included the packet loss analysis at UM in the case study.  Les has reviewed Les has reviewed the Malaysian Case Study and sent suggestions. Saqib will incorporate.. Saqib met with MYREN who have made many topology changes. Saqib will also incoportate these into the Malaysian case study.

Saqib Unfortunately the FRGS proposal was rejected as Saqib's Project leader does not have any relevant publications in his record. Saqib proposes to submit another in ERGS or E-Science grants. He  is in discussions with his PhD . superviser to get the requirements and has started on for a PingER proposal and to see where to submit elsewhereit.

UUM

Regarding the monitoring host in UUM, Adib has assigned one student to prepare the configuration/installation plan including how to secure our their host from attack. He has a public IP address.  He needs to the DNS registration by Sunday 25th May or Monday.  He is in the last stage of working with the Computer Center. Adib requested Johari to share  the UNIMAS setting so it is easier for the student to followto follow. No update 6/5/2014. 

NUST

All references for the Bahawalpur site goes to Director IT, but he is still silent and we are waiting for his reply.

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Then we will decide whether to disable the remaining non-working monitors.  To assist in SEECS gathering data: nodes.cf is now available via http://www-iepm.slac.stanford.edu/pinger/tools/. Also to assist in debugging some problems with gathering and checking the data the SLASC versions of checkdata.pl and checkdata_gif.pl are available at the same place.

Raja

Raja has improved improving the GUI for TULIP. In particular visualizing the intersection region (showing both the minimum and maximal circles), showing landmarks, adding Google analytics. Raja has added undns  (a tool for guessing the location from the router name)  to TULIP and also to VTrace. it It is not very successful., its heuristics are outdated (last update 2005)

PingER at SLAC

Les requested an update from Yahoo about TULIP's geolocation. They answered "We are very much interested in getting IP triangulation at internet scale, we will have internal sync-up on how we can leverage this initiative if there is rate limit and get back. Regarding opening up yahoo sites for deploying ping server requires some more time to discuss this with relevant stake holders with in yahoo." No word, sent a reminder 5/19/2014. No response 6/4/2014.

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Next meeting Wednesday June 18th 25th  2014 9:00pm Pacific Standard Time, Thursday June 19th 26th 2014 9:00am Pakistan time, Thursday June 19th26th, 2014 noon Malaysian time, Thursday June 19thJune26th, 2014 01:00am Rio Standard Time.

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