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Tom Glanzman was unable to connect from his RHEL6-64 box with Chrome v19.0.1084.52 after multiple attempts, where each time the Java client crashed. Note that a recent attempt to update video drivers for RHEL6-64 did not change the openGL version (still at 1.4), so one of our desktop support folks (Wayne Yu) continues to investigate.
Hi Tom, I will need to look into this more. I have looked at both RHEL5 and RHEL6 system with different Nvidia card, and both shows OpenGL 1.4. So I installed Ubuntu 12.04 on a laptop and it shows OpenGL 2.1. And I check the Mesa version on all three system. RHEL5 shows Mesa 6.5.1, RHEL6 shows 7.11 and Ubuntu shows 8.0.2. The OpenGL driver support could be a combination of OpenGL library that comes with the operating system and hardware. Mesa provides the software rendering capability and the video card does the hardware part of it. Wayne
Tom G. then connected from a Windows XP box initially trying through the Chrome browser (both beta and canary) generated an error that the chrome versions are "too old" although they are up to date. Tom then tried Firefox which seemed to work for audio, though there was a complaint that an OpenGL update is required for video (current version is 1.3.1030, but 1.5 is needed) For fun, Tom also tried Android but SeeVogh on android fails immediately --- claims the Safari version was too old.
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Richard (Mac) and Heather (Windows 7) had no trouble getting connected. Anders (Linux) could not get the video client to start up and thus was also unable to see desktop shares (it complained about "Cannot load ViEVO lib vievoLib /afs/slac.stanford.edu/u/ek/borgland/.java/deployment/cache/6.0/3/33e21603-26a383f3-n/libvievoLib.so: libjawt.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory". It could be a simple PATH problem. I've attached the logfile.). Anders also could not speak. Richard acted as the moderator. The moderator controls the start of the meeting, so in effect there is no set meeting time. There is a one page used to set up the details including name and description of the meeting. Richard did not see a way to set "recurrence".
Anders did comment that Richard's audio was particularly clear and strong. Later on during the meeting, we did note that Richard's audio started to fade in and out. Typically it was when Richard would start speaking again, and then after a sentence or so the audio would pick up. It did not seem due to changes in his personal volume.
The default for audio and video seems to come up with the microphone un-muted and video on - it would be better to do the opposite. Similarly public chat should be on by default as well as the participants list.
Video is also on by default. The video window is shared so as more participants enter, each tile associate with each participant is given a smaller piece of the pie. Richard wondered how it would appear if there were 100 participants. (Actually he wondered what would happen with the participant list on the side for a large meeting.)
We tried out the "desktop share" by having Richard share his desktop and that seemed fine.
Under Menu->About there is a "Copy Log" button, it would be nice to locate this in a more prominant location under Menu. The ability to directly email the SeeVogh support team seemed to be missing; maybe the red cross button to just send the log.
The moderator controls the ending of a meeting - if we run over an hour, does the moderator get prompted to add additional time?
What if the moderator has to leave early, but the other meeting participants want to carry on?
Does leaving a meeting mean you have to exit the application entirely? Sometimes it is nice to be able to hop into another meeting straightaway.
Is there a capability to browse available meetings? Is there a password capability to prevent anyone browsing the meetings from joining?
Will there be the concept of a Fermi "Community" that our group can join? Will that change the meeting booking behavior - e.g. to allowance recurrence, perhaps no moderator needed to start/stop the meeting.
Does the moderator have control over attendees? Mute, eject etc?
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Responses from Philippe: (1) Anders's video Linux issue: I can see that it is looking for the (2) Anders's audio Linux issue: The code is the same as for EVO. He may (3) Meeting recurrence: Not in this version but will come. (4) Audio fading during the first sentence was probably due to the (5) Audio/Video unmuted was done on purpose as most new comers were (6) Video streams is limited to 50 (low quality) maximum and will be (7) The "Red Cross" missing button is something we are looking to add (8) When a meeting is over, the meeting is stopped but obviously some (9) If the moderator leaves then it doesn't affect the meeting at all (10) Leaving the meeting means leaving the application (11) For now, you have no function to list the ongoing meetings. (12) We have a concept of "Corporate account" that will include all (13) You can moderate (mute, unmute, ...) the meeting by selecting your |
Question and Answer Time Between Richard and Philippe Galvez May 7,2012
Super. I assume if we subscribe then anyone in Ferm will be able to initiate meetings.
>Yes. Of course.
If I book a 1 hour meeting can people join the room early to make sure everything is working?
>It works a bit differently. You book a total time and it only starts but
>the moderator or who ever has the moderator key starts the meeting.
>In resume, you can reserve a meeting for 2 hours and not using it for
>weeks, the starting time only starts when you activate the meeting.
And will they be able to scan meetings in the community as we can now?
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>Not for now. We are at the early stage.
Have you maintained your fleet of pandas etc in this transition? There will be lots of questions about the new system :-)
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>Yes. All should be nearly transparent for the end user concerning the infrastructure.