From l.lyons1@physics.ox.ac.uk Wed Mar 14 17:55:45 2007 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Subject: Score statistics Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 00:55:40 -0000 X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Score statistics Thread-Index: AcdRan+8UZLCHY2vQXyZAX90WSAnpwAHaGqXAR62G1sAaF0g1ADNxTUVAR9FNdMADtVEqwHBPx7/ From: "Louis Lyons" To: , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , Cc: , X-PMX-Version: 5.3.0.289146, Antispam-Engine: 2.5.0.283055, Antispam-Data: 2007.3.14.173934 X-PerlMx-Spam: Gauge=IIIIIII, Probability=7%, Report='SUPERLONG_LINE 0.05, __CT 0, __CTE 0, __CTYPE_CHARSET_QUOTED 0, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN 0, __HAS_MSGID 0, __IMS_MSGID 0, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY 0, __MIME_VERSION 0, __SANE_MSGID 0' X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by mailbox.slac.stanford.edu id l2F0tjAq022785 Hello GLAST statistics people, I visited the Berkeley Statistics Department yesterday, and spoke with John Rice and Peter Bickel. One of the topics that came up was the "score test" for assessing the significance of a possible signal above a smooth background. The more usual method we use at present is to compare the likelihood ratio for the hypotheses H0 ( = background only) and H1 ( = background + signal). H1 typically will include 3 more parameters, for signal strength A, position and width. Because the position and width are meaningless when the signal strength is zero, the likelihood ratio fails to satisfy the conditions for it to behave like a chi-squared. The score test T instead makes use of the derivative of the log likelihood with respect to the signal strength A, evaluated at A=0. It does require the largest value of T to be found, for varying values of the signal position and width. According to John and Peter, the main advantage of the score test is that it does not require maximisation with respect to A - in the likelihood ratio approach, finding the amplitude of the largest statistical fluctuation for data generated under H0 can be tricky (The score statistic does, however, need the largest value T* with respect to variations in the signal's position and width). John and Peter do not regard it as necessary to scale the statistic by some factr depending on the width or on the number of events. They would also calculate the distribution of T* by Monte Carlo, rather than relying on asymptotic theorems. John and Peter: I hope this is a fair representation of what you patiently tried to explain to me Ramani: I would like to call you up some time, to chat about your talk on this Best wishes Louis